The Joe Rogan Experience (Spotify), September 27, 2026

And I haven't been back to the Congo since Cobalt Red came out, and I knew it would be too dangerous for me to go…

And that's what Cobalt Red is about. But I had not done enough to quantify how many people exactly. And so in this same report…

…not – no. I mean there's a billion people over there. You would think there would be a certain percentage like Red Cross type organizations.

…he just has to get him to admit he ordered the code red and he's quaking in his boots because nicholson's you know if he…

…And he gets Nicholson going. He gets him moving. He gets him agitated. And then, of course, he says, did you order the code red?

…everything you've done and for just, I can't tell you how many people have come up to me and said, thank you for shedding light…

…risked your life. It is a very dangerous part of the world right now with enormous amounts of resources being pulled out and insane amounts…

…there's only a few ways right there's dams you can get hydroelectric power um windmills and solar get the fuck out of here that's not

…to the Congo, getting those photographs, coming back with that, writing Cobalt Red, and then coming on podcasts and telling millions and millions of people…

…I said, why is this so perfectly smooth here? He said, we left this just the way we found it. This is the sedimented urine,…

…they find the people that were here. Well, we imagine this with, you know, the arrival of aliens. This is the first contact, the story.

…I love the technology involved in EVs. I love, I have a Tesla. I love it. But there's also, excuse me, there's also reality of…