The Joe Rogan Experience (Spotify), September 27, 2026

…everything you've done and for just, I can't tell you how many people have come up to me and said, thank you for shedding light…

And, you know, I think just people like you are rare. So thank you. Oh, man, you're gracious, Joe. You're really gracious. I take that…

…think that's meant a lot to me. It's meant a lot to people in the Congo. It's obvious this has captured your heart and you're…

…labor, you have child labor, you have militia-run mines. You know, for people who didn't hear our last conversation, go back and hear it, you…

…after cobalt red came out, you know, there's a bounty for you. So I can't go back. But I've stayed in touch with people there.

…we require that and that the the the area is controlled by people that are willing to do this like there's no like we don't…

…a small part in the southeast corner along the Zambian border. I mean, Much of the Congo is rainforest. Right. That's why I was confused.

…there's only a few ways right there's dams you can get hydroelectric power um windmills and solar get the fuck out of here that's not

And that's what Cobalt Red is about. But I had not done enough to quantify how many people exactly. And so in this same report…

…I said, why is this so perfectly smooth here? He said, we left this just the way we found it. This is the sedimented urine,…

…they find the people that were here. Well, we imagine this with, you know, the arrival of aliens. This is the first contact, the story.

…I love the technology involved in EVs. I love, I have a Tesla. I love it. But there's also, excuse me, there's also reality of…